002: The Power of Aspiring to Fail with Stan Gallo

002: The Power of Aspiring to Fail with Stan Gallo

I’m sure we’ve all heard the saying, “You have to risk it to get the biscuit.” It’s a popular quote for a reason—it rings true. To be successful in life, you can’t be afraid to take risks. You have to be willing to put yourself out there and aspire to fail.  

Sounds counterintuitive, right? But it’s not. When you’re constantly pushing yourself outside of your comfort zone, you’re opening yourself up to new opportunities and learning experiences. And that’s what leads to success. 

In this episode of the Thriving in Complexity podcast, Susanne talks with Stan Gallo, who is a partner with the Forensic Services team at BDO in Brisbane and has over 30 years of experience in law enforcement and professional services. 

Stan shares his insights on the value of taking risks, and how this can lead to individual and organisational success. He also discusses the importance of being open-minded and curious, and how these qualities have helped him in his career. 

So if you’re looking for some inspiration to take more risks in your life, or you’re simply curious about Stan’s interesting life, this episode is for you! 


  • All about forensic investigations (02:53) 
  • Stan’s time management technique (05:40) 
  • Engaging with organized crimes vs engaging with paying clients (12:50) 
  • Cybersecurity basics everyone should be aware of (17:28) 
  • How to deal with unexpected situations (21:20) 
  • Thriving in complexity, according to Stan (25:52) 
  • Preparing an environment ready for failure (27:02) 
  • Keeping up with the changes (29:44) 
  • One situation Stan wished he managed differently (33:35) 
  • Stan’s advice to his 25-year-old self (40:50) 


“Fail, but fail fast. Don’t drag it out.” -Stan Gallo 

“You learn a lot more from your failures than your successes.” Stan Gallo 

“Give your brain a chance to reset, and then try and look at it from a different perspective.” – 


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Stan is a partner with the Forensic Services team at BDO in Brisbane. 

Stan has over 30 years of experience across law enforcement and professional services, holding local, state, and international leadership roles.   

In his current role, Stan provides proactive risk management, investigative, and technology advice to assist organisations in aligning Governance, Risk, and Compliance programs with their strategic objectives.  

Stan works with clients across a range of industries and specialises in fraud, misconduct, and compliance-related matters, including the identification, preservation, and analysis of digital evidence in cyber and technology-related investigations.